Dear Dr. Eduardo Algranti,
We would like to thank Dr. Eduardo Algranti for his interest in our paper and for his comments, which greatly contribute to the study in question and to a broader discussion of malignant mesothelioma (MM) in Brazil.
First, we would like to reply to Dr. Algranti's comments on simian virus 40 (SV40). In the
abstract of our article,(
11. Assis LV, Isoldi MC. Overview of the biochemical and genetic
processes in malignant mesothelioma. J Bras Pneumol. 2014;40(4):429-42.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1590/S1806-37132014000400012
https://doi.org/10.1590/S1806-3713201400...
) we state that "the development of MM is strongly correlated with exposure to
asbestos and erionite, as well as to simian virus 40". We agree with Dr. Algranti that the
statement is incorrect as it is.
Before our article was edited by the Brazilian Journal of Pulmonology, the statement read "the development of this cancer is strongly correlated with exposure to asbestos and other factors, such as erionite and SV40". In the original sentence (i.e., before the editing of the article), "strongly correlated" referred to "exposure to asbestos" rather than "exposure to asbestos, erionite, and SV40"; however, we recognize that the sentence was ambiguous and open to interpretation. The original sentence might have been clearer if we had placed a comma between the words "asbestos" and "erionite", in an attempt to indicate that "strongly correlated" referred to "asbestos" only; however, we recognize that the sentence would have remained ambiguous and open to interpretation.
Several studies have strongly correlated asbestos with the development of MM. However, we agree with Dr. Algranti that it is incorrect to state that there is a strong correlation between SV40 and MM. In a recent study conducted by our research group,( 22. de Assis LV, Locatelli J, Isoldi MC. The role of key genes and pathways involved in the tumorigenesis of Malignant Mesothelioma. Biochim Biophys Acta. 2014;1845(2):232-47. PMid:24491449 ) the role of SV40 in MM was described as follows:
"Taken altogether, it is still not clear the direct carcinogenic effects of SV40 in MM in humans; however, it is widely accepted the role of SV40 as a co-carcinogenic player in association with asbestos in the development of MM."
Although the original sentence was no longer ambiguous after the editing of the article, the resulting statement was incorrect. It is indeed incorrect to state that the carcinogenic potential of asbestos and erionite is the same as that of SV40. Therefore, we will request that the Brazilian Journal of Pulmonology correct the sentence in the abstract to read "the development of MM is correlated with exposure to asbestos and other factors, such as erionite and simian virus 40".
Second, we would like to reply to Dr. Algranti's comments on our description of the role of
chrysotile asbestos in the development of MM. We agree with Dr. Algranti's statement that
the carcinogenic potential of chrysotile asbestos is lower than that of amphibole asbestos.
In fact, in our article,(
11. Assis LV, Isoldi MC. Overview of the biochemical and genetic
processes in malignant mesothelioma. J Bras Pneumol. 2014;40(4):429-42.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1590/S1806-37132014000400012
https://doi.org/10.1590/S1806-3713201400...
) we stated that all types of asbestos are classified as carcinogenic to humans
by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC).(
33. IARC Working Group on the Evaluation of Carcinogenic Risks to Humans.
Arsenic, metals, fibres, and dusts. In: IARC Monographs on the evaluation of
carcinogenic risks to humans. International Agency for Research on Cancer. World
Health Organization. Vol. 100C. Lyon, France: World Health Organization. 2012. p.
11-465.
) However, it is widely debated whether chrysotile asbestos can cause MM in
humans, and this is mentioned in our article. (
11. Assis LV, Isoldi MC. Overview of the biochemical and genetic
processes in malignant mesothelioma. J Bras Pneumol. 2014;40(4):429-42.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1590/S1806-37132014000400012
https://doi.org/10.1590/S1806-3713201400...
) This controversy in the literature guides public policies in many countries,
including Brazil. There is also controversy as to whether controlled exposure to low
concentrations of chrysotile asbestos over a long period of time can result in detectable
changes in humans.(
44. Bernstein D, Dunnigan J, Hesterberg T, Brown R, Velasco JA, Barrera
R, et al. Health risk of chrysotile revisited. Crit Rev Toxicol. 2013;43(2):154-83.
http://dx.doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2012.756454
https://doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2012.75...
) The issue is further complicated by the fact that chrysotile asbestos can be
contaminated with crocidolite asbestos.(
55. Carbone M, Ly BH, Dodson RF, Pagano I, Morris PT, Dogan UA, et al.
Malignant mesothelioma: facts, myths, and hypotheses. J Cell Physiol.
2012;227(1):44-58 http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/jcp.22724
https://doi.org/10.1002/jcp.22724...
) Chrysotile asbestos accounts for 95% of all asbestos used worldwide, MM cases
being therefore associated with this type of asbestos; however, it has been shown that
there is no epidemiological evidence for a causal association between chrysotile asbestos
and MM.(
66. Tweedale G, McCulloch J. Chrysophiles versus chrysophobes: the white
asbestos controversy, 1950s-2004. Isis. 2004;95(2):239-59.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1086/426196
https://doi.org/10.1086/426196...
,
77. Britton M. The epidemiology of mesothelioma. Semin Oncol.
2002;29(1):18-25. http://dx.doi.org/10.1053/sonc.2002.30237
https://doi.org/10.1053/sonc.2002.30237...
)
There is no consensus in the literature regarding the effects of chrysotile asbestos
exposure at low doses over a long period of time or at high doses over a short period of
time on the development of MM.(
44. Bernstein D, Dunnigan J, Hesterberg T, Brown R, Velasco JA, Barrera
R, et al. Health risk of chrysotile revisited. Crit Rev Toxicol. 2013;43(2):154-83.
http://dx.doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2012.756454
https://doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2012.75...
5. Carbone M, Ly BH, Dodson RF, Pagano I, Morris PT, Dogan UA, et al.
Malignant mesothelioma: facts, myths, and hypotheses. J Cell Physiol.
2012;227(1):44-58 http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/jcp.22724
https://doi.org/10.1002/jcp.22724...
6. Tweedale G, McCulloch J. Chrysophiles versus chrysophobes: the white
asbestos controversy, 1950s-2004. Isis. 2004;95(2):239-59.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1086/426196
https://doi.org/10.1086/426196...
7. Britton M. The epidemiology of mesothelioma. Semin Oncol.
2002;29(1):18-25. http://dx.doi.org/10.1053/sonc.2002.30237
https://doi.org/10.1053/sonc.2002.30237...
-
88. Powers A, Carbone M. The role of environmental carcinogens, viruses
and genetic predisposition in the pathogenesis of mesothelioma. Cancer Biol Ther.
2002;1(4):348-53. http://dx.doi.org/10.4161/cbt.1.4.4
https://doi.org/10.4161/cbt.1.4.4...
) However, according to Dr. Algranti, there is no doubt about the carcinogenic
effects of chrysotile asbestos in humans, and we respect his opinion. Nevertheless, in our
opinion, there is no consensus!
After a thorough study of the literature, our opinion is that there is no consensus
regarding this issue. If there is indeed a consensus, why is it that chrysotile asbestos is
still marketed in and exported by several countries, including Brazil? This is not true for
amphibole asbestos; because there is a consensus on its role in the development of MM, it
has been banned worldwide. Although the IARC classifies chrysotile asbestos as a
carcinogen,(
33. IARC Working Group on the Evaluation of Carcinogenic Risks to Humans.
Arsenic, metals, fibres, and dusts. In: IARC Monographs on the evaluation of
carcinogenic risks to humans. International Agency for Research on Cancer. World
Health Organization. Vol. 100C. Lyon, France: World Health Organization. 2012. p.
11-465.
) several other groups and authorities worldwide have not been convinced by the
currently available evidence; this further fuels the ongoing controversy. In addition to
being scientifically controversial, the issue is controversial from an economic standpoint,
given the large sums of money involved in worldwide asbestos markets. However, there is a
consensus in the literature regarding the fact that the potency of chrysotile asbestos is
lower than that of other forms of asbestos.(
22. de Assis LV, Locatelli J, Isoldi MC. The role of key genes and
pathways involved in the tumorigenesis of Malignant Mesothelioma. Biochim Biophys
Acta. 2014;1845(2):232-47. PMid:24491449
3. IARC Working Group on the Evaluation of Carcinogenic Risks to Humans.
Arsenic, metals, fibres, and dusts. In: IARC Monographs on the evaluation of
carcinogenic risks to humans. International Agency for Research on Cancer. World
Health Organization. Vol. 100C. Lyon, France: World Health Organization. 2012. p.
11-465.
-
44. Bernstein D, Dunnigan J, Hesterberg T, Brown R, Velasco JA, Barrera
R, et al. Health risk of chrysotile revisited. Crit Rev Toxicol. 2013;43(2):154-83.
http://dx.doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2012.756454
https://doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2012.75...
,
77. Britton M. The epidemiology of mesothelioma. Semin Oncol.
2002;29(1):18-25. http://dx.doi.org/10.1053/sonc.2002.30237
https://doi.org/10.1053/sonc.2002.30237...
8. Powers A, Carbone M. The role of environmental carcinogens, viruses
and genetic predisposition in the pathogenesis of mesothelioma. Cancer Biol Ther.
2002;1(4):348-53. http://dx.doi.org/10.4161/cbt.1.4.4
https://doi.org/10.4161/cbt.1.4.4...
-
99. de Assis LV, Isoldi MC. The function, mechanisms, and role of the
genes PTEN and TP53 and the effects of asbestos in the development of malignant
mesothelioma: a review focused on the genes' molecular mechanisms. Tumour Biol.
2014;35(2):889-901. http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s13277-013-1210-4
https://doi.org/10.1007/s13277-013-1210-...
)
We believe that our statement regarding chrysotile asbestos is correct; there is
controversy, rather than consensus, regarding the role of chrysotile asbestos in humans.
This is due to many factors, some of which have been mentioned above, whereas several
others have been described elsewhere.(
44. Bernstein D, Dunnigan J, Hesterberg T, Brown R, Velasco JA, Barrera
R, et al. Health risk of chrysotile revisited. Crit Rev Toxicol. 2013;43(2):154-83.
http://dx.doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2012.756454
https://doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2012.75...
,
77. Britton M. The epidemiology of mesothelioma. Semin Oncol.
2002;29(1):18-25. http://dx.doi.org/10.1053/sonc.2002.30237
https://doi.org/10.1053/sonc.2002.30237...
,
1010. Bernstein D, Dunnigan J, Hesterberg T, Brown R, Legaspi Velasco JA,
Barrerao R, et al. Response to Murray M. Finkelstein, letter to the editor re
Bernstein et al: Health risk of chrysotile revisited. Crit Rev Toxicol.
2013;43(8):709-10. http://dx.doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2013.826178
https://doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2013.82...
) Despite the controversy generated by several confounding factors in the
aforementioned studies, the dangers of chrysotile asbestos cannot be ignored, which is why
chrysotile asbestos and other types of asbestos are classified as human carcinogens.
(
33. IARC Working Group on the Evaluation of Carcinogenic Risks to Humans.
Arsenic, metals, fibres, and dusts. In: IARC Monographs on the evaluation of
carcinogenic risks to humans. International Agency for Research on Cancer. World
Health Organization. Vol. 100C. Lyon, France: World Health Organization. 2012. p.
11-465.
) This is clearly stated in our article.(
11. Assis LV, Isoldi MC. Overview of the biochemical and genetic
processes in malignant mesothelioma. J Bras Pneumol. 2014;40(4):429-42.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1590/S1806-37132014000400012
https://doi.org/10.1590/S1806-3713201400...
) Finally, because our study focused on the molecular bases of MM, we decided
not to delve into the controversy regarding the role of chrysotile asbestos in MM. However,
the controversial nature of the issue is manifested in Dr. Algranti's letter and in our
reply.
We would like to thank Dr. Algranti again for his interest in our paper; for his critique; and for his bringing to light issues that are extremely important to the discussion of mesothelioma in Brazil.
Yours sincerely,
Leonardo de Assis
Mauro César Isoldi
References
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1Assis LV, Isoldi MC. Overview of the biochemical and genetic processes in malignant mesothelioma. J Bras Pneumol. 2014;40(4):429-42. http://dx.doi.org/10.1590/S1806-37132014000400012
» https://doi.org/10.1590/S1806-37132014000400012 -
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3IARC Working Group on the Evaluation of Carcinogenic Risks to Humans. Arsenic, metals, fibres, and dusts. In: IARC Monographs on the evaluation of carcinogenic risks to humans. International Agency for Research on Cancer. World Health Organization. Vol. 100C. Lyon, France: World Health Organization. 2012. p. 11-465.
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4Bernstein D, Dunnigan J, Hesterberg T, Brown R, Velasco JA, Barrera R, et al. Health risk of chrysotile revisited. Crit Rev Toxicol. 2013;43(2):154-83. http://dx.doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2012.756454
» https://doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2012.756454 -
5Carbone M, Ly BH, Dodson RF, Pagano I, Morris PT, Dogan UA, et al. Malignant mesothelioma: facts, myths, and hypotheses. J Cell Physiol. 2012;227(1):44-58 http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/jcp.22724
» https://doi.org/10.1002/jcp.22724 -
6Tweedale G, McCulloch J. Chrysophiles versus chrysophobes: the white asbestos controversy, 1950s-2004. Isis. 2004;95(2):239-59. http://dx.doi.org/10.1086/426196
» https://doi.org/10.1086/426196 -
7Britton M. The epidemiology of mesothelioma. Semin Oncol. 2002;29(1):18-25. http://dx.doi.org/10.1053/sonc.2002.30237
» https://doi.org/10.1053/sonc.2002.30237 -
8Powers A, Carbone M. The role of environmental carcinogens, viruses and genetic predisposition in the pathogenesis of mesothelioma. Cancer Biol Ther. 2002;1(4):348-53. http://dx.doi.org/10.4161/cbt.1.4.4
» https://doi.org/10.4161/cbt.1.4.4 -
9de Assis LV, Isoldi MC. The function, mechanisms, and role of the genes PTEN and TP53 and the effects of asbestos in the development of malignant mesothelioma: a review focused on the genes' molecular mechanisms. Tumour Biol. 2014;35(2):889-901. http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s13277-013-1210-4
» https://doi.org/10.1007/s13277-013-1210-4 -
10Bernstein D, Dunnigan J, Hesterberg T, Brown R, Legaspi Velasco JA, Barrerao R, et al. Response to Murray M. Finkelstein, letter to the editor re Bernstein et al: Health risk of chrysotile revisited. Crit Rev Toxicol. 2013;43(8):709-10. http://dx.doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2013.826178
» https://doi.org/10.3109/10408444.2013.826178
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